Researching China Patterns and Value

February 28th, 2008

Occasionally people write to me for advice on selling a set of china, or ask me to buy a set from them. In general, Grandma’s gorgeous set isn’t worth as much as you’d hoped (except for relatively few patterns), and selling to a dealer will always raise (far) less money than selling to an end user or collector. I don’t even buy from individuals because of this (I buy only at auction), and I sometimes advise people to just give it to a relative – far more satisfying than selling in many cases. Not what most people want to hear, but with that said, here’s a start on determining value and trying to sell for an acceptable price:

 

  • Try Replacements.com: http://www.replacements.com/identify.htm. If you don’t already know about these guys, they maintain an enormous database of information on china and silver. If you know the pattern, you can look it up on their website. If you send them pictures of the object, particularly the backstamp and details of the rim/center, they’ll try and identify it for you (no cost), and may be able to give you some idea of its value. (Note: their notion of value will be its current market value in general, not its value to a collector.) They also buy china, but at wholesale rates, and you have to pay the shipping.
  • Also, try TIAS.com – they publish a newsletter and maintain a showcase area for various antiques and collectibles: http://www.tias.com/showcase/. Some of the vendors specialize in certain manufacturers or patterns and may be able to help you.
  • After that, look for pottery museums, collector’s groups, and appraisers/auctioneers who specialize in china. Is there an auctioneer in your area who could tell you what it might draw at auction? Be careful here (maybe put a reserve price on it, or make sure it goes up for auction when a number of collectors or dealers are in attendance) – I’ve gotten whole sets of dinnerware for under $50, but I’ve also seen a set go for over $1000. Depends (as with Replacements.com) whether the pattern is in demand.
  • Antique Trader magazine is a good source for buyers, sellers, and the simply curious – they have an extensive classifieds section: http://www.antiquetrader.com/ and it’s not particularly expensive to advertise something for sale.
  • For other antiques sites, Google it – you’ll find hundreds.
  • Find out if there are antique malls in your area. The business model of a mall is to have booths that many different vendors rent to display items for sale. The mall owners do the retail part (taking money from customers, paying sales tax to the state, etc). Some vendors – or the mall owners themselves – may put your set up for sale on consignment.
  • If you want to get rid of a set with the least hassle, donate it to a legitimate charity and take the tax break.
  • If you are determined to sell the set yourself online, sell it by the piece rather than altogether. It’s nearly impossible to sell whole sets of old, good china online these days unless the pattern happens to be in high demand. Ebay (despite the multiple fees, byzantine rules, and chaotic feedback system) is still the most likely place to make a sale.

Good luck!

–Gail

Ebay changes

February 28th, 2008

I have closed my Ebay store. I had been considering that action for some time anyway, but now that they’ve further damaged the feedback system and want to charge even more to sell, I’m out of there. I participated in the initial Ebay boycott with a number of other sellers (despite the increasingly shrill rhetoric), but then figured that I might as well go elsewhere altogether and give Ebay some competition. Found a couple good alternatives, too. One is NeoLoch.com, a brand new site with no listing fees – only opened in late February of this year (so some initial bugs and growing pains) – but there’s something interesting about making a bet on a real new business. Also joined www.onlineauction.com, which charges a flat fee per year, not per item. I’ll be listing some things there, too.

Mostly, though, I’ll be improving and upgrading my gailsfinechina.com website. Signed on with Mal’s E-commerce for a shopping cart, and applied to the post office for access to their shipping calculators.

–Gail

Overpaying for Sentiment

October 12th, 2007

I was at an auction a few months ago, where a woman – obviously bidding against a bitterly competitive family member – paid over $3000 for a set of china from an older lady’s (presumably her grandmother’s) estate. The rest of the auction attendees stood there in stunned silence while this went on, and I heard them muttering later about how painful that was to witness – and it was.

And yet… I know what it is to want something owned by a departed loved one. I also know what it’s like to see a relative grotesquely mishandle and misrepresent the last wishes of that loved one, too. There are days when I’m certain the manipulative will inherit the earth.

What would I do in an equivalent situation? I could send an anonymous agent to bid for me, and simply stay away. Then whoever was bidding against me would at least not have the advantage of spite to fuel the battle.

I could also simply replace the set. It was a very fine manufacturer, and the dishes were in excellent condition, but you could have bought all of it by the piece from Replacements, Ltd. for less than a third of what she paid for them.

Then again, I might remember that Grandma gave me a lot more than dishes. Not only did I not have to buy those other things, no one can take them away from me, either.

–Gail

Carlton Walking Ware

October 12th, 2007

If you’ve got some Carlton Walking Ware for sale, I’ve got a customer for you – a friend who has begun collecting it. (For those of you who haven’t heard of it, here are some pictures – on eBay.)

–Gail

A patch of warm air

September 17th, 2007

An older man, confusing me with someone else, said,
“Oh, you’re so pretty. I know you. You work at the bar down the street.”
Ability, education, experience sat up and looked around, startled.
“I work at a big company, in T-town,” I stuttered.
“You’re so pretty.” He squeezed my arm. “I’ve seen you here before.”
And again
He was so happy, smiling. Delighted shiny words.
Finally I smiled back.
Clear atmosphere, light heart, dusty boxes like raw gemstones.
Everyone needs to hear “pretty” now and then.

–Gail

ShopGoodwill.com

September 15th, 2007

A heads-up for those of you looking for incredible antique/collectible bargains online. Try http://www.shopgoodwill.com. Yes, Goodwill. The charity. People donate some wonderful stuff, and buying it at their online auction supports important work with disabled people. Several of my items for sale at Gail’s Fine China Collection came from there. (I generally support the Reading, PA office because I can drive out to get the items instead of having them shipped, but the organization is nationwide.)

I have read some objections to this practice – people who think online auctions take good items away from the thrift stores – but I can’t agree. The thrift store customers are not Goodwill’s main clients, but rather the disabled people who get job training and other services. I donate to Goodwill and expect them to get as much money for those donated items as possible. Still a great bargain for shoppers, but reaches a much larger market.

–Gail

Jewelry

September 15th, 2007

I don’t generally sell jewelry – fine china is quite enough, thank you very much – but I did get started with eBay’s Live Auctions and bought some phenomenal stones, pearls, and opals there. The auction house even sent appraisal forms which indicated that I’d paid about 3% of what the items were actually worth. Will I get them re-appraised to find out if those numbers are inflated? Yep, eventually. Do I understand that the value is probably what the stones would be worth in a setting, not individually? Yes, I do. Still…great value, very pretty, and you just can’t beat a “live” auction – even online.

 To get started, go here: http://www.liveauctions.ebay.com/

They’ve got more than just jewelry, too.

 —Gail

Welcome!

September 14th, 2007

One of my favorite pastimes is going to auctions. I view it like other people view movies: drama, interesting characters, a storyline, changing scenery, suspense, the background music of the auctioneer’s chant. Best, I get to take stuff home, often at absurdly low prices.

Selling those auction finds eventually turned into a business (Gail’s Fine China Collection), and I will certainly mention any exceptionally cool finds, but mostly I expect to tell stories about the auctions themselves – who goes there, who wins and loses, who got the staggering bargain or bought the oddest thing. A lifelong interest in science fiction may schedule some of these stories in outer space, but then…what planet are you from?

Come along for the ride.

–Gail